pomegranate - how to germinate the seed

[aamirc]

Some of mine are branching out :eek:

Aamirc, they must look pretty pathetic! I have a batch indoors that are spindly, dark green and tiny/thin, yours can't be as bad as those surely?

Trust me mine are dead unless a miracle happens. :mad:

[Psypomp]

My pommies are doing really well! I will try posting a pic later today...

What are the odds of these surviving the winter, indoors, perhaps?? They are native to hot Mediterranean climates, so I'm not sure.

[Riz]

What are the odds of these surviving the winter, indoors, perhaps??

hi..

well mine survived indoors from last season, although the stems got really leggy ( in that case just cut them back) aslong as they have some light and warm temps indoors, i see no reason why they cant survive and i speak from personal experience... :cool:

[edibles]

they say the worst part of a holiday is coming back and well they are right (who ever they are) my pommies are dry and I would not be suprised if they were dead:(:(:(

[tahir_phoenix]

they say the worst part of a holiday is coming back and well they are right (who ever they are) my pommies are dry and I would not be suprised if they were dead:(:(:(

Post some pics ed and lets have a look, are there any leaves left on the plants? Obviously try giving them much needed water but also try and mist the leaves and get them out of the sun and somewhere shaded, they may yet survive depending on how big they are. :o

One of my poms was all droopy for a couple days becoz I didn't water it, now its made a full recovery!

[digi-girl]

Some of the leaves on a few of my pomegranates are worrying me a bit, they have distinct curve to them. I'm wondering if anybody else's pommies have done this too. Other then the leaves being a bit wonky the plants seem perfectly healthy.

Here's an example of what the leaves are doing
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What do you think? Do I have cause for concern or should I write it off as a harmless mutation?

[Riz]

the leaves look healthy, i wouldn't worry to much ....

[edibles]

:)new shoots. that put a smile on my face as you can see the stem has collapsed, this was where it has dried up the bottom is still tough though.

the little one has bit the dust.:(

[edibles]

it didnt make it:(, but i planted some more

[Riz]

shame ed..

mine are doing great, ill probably bring them indoors till next summer now :)

[Riz]

both ine are indoors now.. one is looking healthier than the other :)

[Tania]

They have different colours :) are 2 different types of pommies?

[Riz]

hi tania..

No, they are both the same , i think the smaller one is just shedding leaves quicker than the other one, which is shedding too but you cant really make it out in the pics.

[Psypomp]

I'm so sorry for not posting in such a long time! I've been at college.. things are busy.

Anyway, I took my little pomegranates with me. They are living in front of the window in my room. The leaves are starting to change!

We're not allowed to have heat lamps here, so I'm afraid they won't be getting enough sunlight! Will they survive the winter?

[Psypomp]

:)new shoots. that put a smile on my face as you can see the stem has collapsed, this was where it has dried up the bottom is still tough though.

the little one has bit the dust.:(I'm sorry to hear your little one died.

Out of curiosity, what are the fuzzy leaves lying on the bottom?

/EDIT Never mind, Edibles, I just looked at your dragon fruit thread. That is so cool!

[Riz]

hi psypomp, its really nice to see you again :)

i have kept my pommie seedlings on the windowsills for the last two seasons and they have bounced back... dont water them too much,, really sparingly and they should be just fine :)

[Psypomp]

Thanks for replying, Riz... I water them every 2 days or so, with warm water. Maybe I should cut back on the watering as it becomes colder.

[slightlyeskew]

Hey all! I'm new to this forum so if I should start a new thread let me know.

I'm starting to grow a pomegranate from a seed I got from a fruit. I've gotten some Miracle Gro Potting Soil but I'm concerned that perhaps this isn't the right thing to use with this seed. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks for your time.

[Riz]

hi..

whats your location !?

its cool i just used regular cheap compost to germinate my pommie seeds, good luck with them, how many seeds are you starting !?

[slightlyeskew]

Northern Florida, high humidity but very mild winters, rarely dips below 30 F. Just trying one to start with. I'm excited to see the results.

[Riz]

^ you may want to germinate a few seeds in case one doesnt germinate :)

[slightlyeskew]

I read somewhere that I need to remove the outer coating of the pomegranate seed, but then I saw pictures where it looked like somone had just taken the seed (maybe dejuicing it) and then setting it out to dry. I completely removed the outer skin...was this wrong? Thanks for your time.

[slightlyeskew]

Riz, I saw where you wrote something about you having read online that the seed won't grow "true to form" as the mother plant. What was the reasoning behind that given in the article?

[aamirc]

Riz, I saw where you wrote something about you having read online that the seed won't grow "true to form" as the mother plant. What was the reasoning behind that given in the article?

To explain it simply, take the example of humans. When humans reproduce, their kids do not look exactly like the mother or the father but in fact a mixture of the two. In some cases the kids may even look like the parents cousins.

It is very much the same with plants, the seedling may look or show characteristics of the mother plant but it is highly unlikely that it will be exactly like the mother plant.

Pomegranate plants are strange since they are self pollinating.

You can create a mirror image of the mother plant by growing it through a cutting of it. This is the only way to replicate it. Pomegranate cuttings take root very easily. Get them at the end of or during winter. The cutting should be 6mm thick and around 20 to 30 tall. Leave only the top 2 buds exposed when planting it in the ground.

[aamirc]

I read somewhere that I need to remove the outer coating of the pomegranate seed, but then I saw pictures where it looked like somone had just taken the seed (maybe dejuicing it) and then setting it out to dry. I completely removed the outer skin...was this wrong? Thanks for your time.

All you need to do is remove the red pulp from the seed. Put it in your mouth and eat it without biting the seed or pinch it in your thumb or elsewise remove the pulp. Leave the seeds somewhere to dry off. Then plant them anywhere you like about 3 mm to 5 mm deep. Wait up to 3 to 5 weeks and voila you will see little green things popping up every where.

Pomegranates germinate in just about any type of soil mixture. People have even grown this seed in pebbles and rocks.

Florida would be perfect to plant pomegranates. Just out of curiosity is Florida in California. If so then you should have no problems as they are grown there commercially. Heck, in Australia pomegranates are imported from California, POM Wonderfull is their strain name.

[Kirsten]

To explain it simply, take the example of humans. When humans reproduce, their kids do not look exactly like the mother or the father but in fact a mixture of the two. In some cases the kids may even look like the parents cousins.


LOL I tried SO hard to explain this to my parents (I'm a biology major, my parents know nothing about science...) and my mother flat out refused to believe that she and my sister had different genes, no matter how hard I tried :rolleyes:

[aamirc]

LOL I tried SO hard to explain this to my parents (I'm a biology major, my parents know nothing about science...) and my mother flat out refused to believe that she and my sister had different genes, no matter how hard I tried :rolleyes:

HAha, you should have posed the question to her of "Mum if our genes are the same then why do I look different to her?"

[slightlyeskew]

Florida would be perfect to plant pomegranates. Just out of curiosity is Florida in California. If so then you should have no problems as they are grown there commercially. Heck, in Australia pomegranates are imported from California, POM Wonderfull is their strain name.

Unfortunately Florida is not in California. California is on the western seaboard and has a much more (in my opinion) pleasant climate. The main difference between the two states are the humidity levels. California is relatively arid, while Florida has humidity levels bordering on the tropical. That's my main concern with the seeds and the general feasability of growing a pomegranate tree in Florida: overwatering.

My comment about the difference between the mother plant and the seeds was more along the lines of a worry that the seeds taken from fruit were rendered infertile through genetic modification or selective breeding. I don't know if that was ever outlawed in the states. Thanks so much for your comments!

[aamirc]

Show my lack of geographical knowledge. Pomegranate plants are very tolerant to most conditions. They can grow in most soils. They can survive droughts. They can survive and grow even in waterlogged conditions. You shouldn't have trouble growing them. If you do have trouble growing them outdoors. Just germinate them indoors and transfer them outdoors after an year.

My pomegranate plant was grown from an imported fruit from America. So I doubt the seeds you have would be infertile. Most Agricultural reports say its not a smart idea to grow it from seeds because of the variations that result in the fruit. Another reason not to grow it from a seed is that it will take longer for it to bear fruit as opposed to growing it from a cutting. Generally it takes 3 years for a cutting grown plant to bear fruit. My uncle's pomie plant from a cutting actually had a fruit on it in only a year. I guess its all about luck and having the right conditions. He planted a cutting for me too, I still have to get it off him.

Another concern for Pomegranate plants is excessive rain when it is bearing fruit. The fruit turns out soft or it can result in the splitting of fruit.

[slightlyeskew]

aamirc you don't have any websites that have tutorials on how to do cuttings / graftings do you? I've been interested in the subject for a while but I haven't found any good resources. Thanks again for the info!

[aamirc]

The Australian state governments provide fact sheets on different crops and fruits. The following two links are the New South Wales and Western Australian Fact sheets. They should contain adequate information on propagation through cuttings and grafting.

NSW - http://www.dpi.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/119543/pomegranate-growing.pdf

WA - http://www.agric.wa.gov.au/objtwr/imported_assets/content/hort/pomegranatebrochure0808.pdf

Extra Info - http://www.wanatca.org.au/acotanc/Papers/Cohen-1/Author-n-Text.htm

Propagation
The best way to propagate is from cuttings, softwood cuttings. Seeds are a waste of time, they will never come true unless you are extraordinarily lucky. You can do layering, if you have the time to do it. But frankly, it is so easy to take cuttings that there is no reason to try anything else. They can also be grafted. If you want to get a larger tree sooner, you might try grafting.

Make the cutting about 20 to 30 cm long, about 5 mm across. Plant it on a slight angle in a potting mixture, leaving one but above the surface of the soil. Water regularly. It was my first mistake in the first year that I didn't water them enough. Out of the 1000 cuttings I had faithfully potted, personally, I lost 200 to 300 due to drying out. In the past year, the cuttings I took from my own trees, I probably lost under 5%. I currently have about 1000 sitting in my nursery block. By the time I get the Indian cultivars done, I will have about 20 major cultivars, ranging from wild pomegranates, seedless pomegranates through ones with fairly substantial seeds, and a wide range of sugar levels and juice levels.

You should search the Florida's Agricultural departments website for a similar document. It would be tailored to your need. Google is a wonderful tool. :D I hope you have fun with your pomegranate adventures.

[slightlyeskew]

Thanks for all the info aamirc. I haven't had a chance to browse it all yet but its on my to do list! I've got 5 pom seeds now germinating (hopefully :) ) in a pot. However I think I see mold growing above 3 of the seeds (spider web looking growth). I suspect this is from not completely removing the outer skin of the pom (the aril I think its called) after I popped the seed. The seed I completely removed the aril from looks to be growing nicely, I can see a root growing into the soil.

Do you guys have any recommendations on what ratio of Hydrogen Peroxide to use when I spray the pot to help eliminate the mold? I read somewhere 1:20 was good, but I'm concerned that I might damage the one seed that is growing. Thanks for any info guys!

[aamirc]

I didn't spray my pommie seeds with anything but water, they seemed to germinate just fine. They did get a little moldy but they still germinated. Mine turned from the whitish colour of the seeds to a darkish brown before germinating.

[slightlyeskew]

So i've moved my pom indoors after transplanting the seedling into a pot. I'm shining what I believe to be a full spectrum light on it. My question is, what is the harm in shining the light 24 hours?

[Riz]

its not doing any harm, when the plants/seedling is in vegetative growth you can give it 24/7 light, so its all good and it will grow rapid.. what's the wattage of the light? any chance of a pic :)

[aamirc]

Yeah show us a pic... Looking at your set up would be interesting for us to see.

[slightlyeskew]

Lighting setup is...unevolved I think is a good word:

http://www.muslimgrower.com/discussionforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2580&stc=1&d=1257420517


Here's the Pom seedling:

http://www.muslimgrower.com/discussionforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2579&stc=1&d=1257420517

The seedling took a long time to break the surface. I had to move it inside even though its relatively balmy outside. Lumens on the light are probably a little low, from the companies website it looks like the bulb is about 500 lumens. I'm looking to upgrade shortly.

[Riz]

nice setup.. but get the light at least 3 inches away from the seedling.. its too far away.. lower it down really close, thats why the seedling looks stretchy...

can i see a baby venus fly trap in the background :)

[Carcharos]

These pomegranates are around two weeks old, I started them close to when I did my sugarcane. They're growing very slow compared to it, but they look healthy.

[Riz]

^ nice...

so there is a few of us who are growing the pommies :)

[Karenm]

Hello ,I'm new here, Was looking for info on starting seeds..And found what I needed,Though I would comment on this post ..
True, The fruit that you start from seed will be a cross pollenation,it would be a cross from other Wounderful Pome Shrubs/trees..The orchard would be of the same types and it's true that the mother plants are from started cuttings........ Wounderful is a great tasting ,large fruit.That Keeps well.. I've been Growing the true mini Nana fruit the size of large marble to maybe golf ball size on a larger plant..Starts very easy from cuttings.and will have fruit with 4 months of rooting. Thanks for the new group..Karen in Bowling Green ,KY.

[Riz]

4 months of rooting form a cutting, truly amazing karen :)

[Karenm]

I was Surprised when it got buds and they held fast,,and even more so when it set fruit..Not sure where you are,but it says in the searches I've done to root cuttings in Jan,Feb. And March. Karen In Bowling Green KY

[Riz]

karen..

i live in U.K

[Riz]

the pommie plants are doing ok too, i leave them on the kitchen floor with some light coming in from the kitchen window, ill take some pics later to show ya all !??

carachros how are your seedlings coming along !?

[Riz]

some pics,, you can see some dead yellow leaves too, i am getting some green growth too, cant even remember the last time i watered them, i may do it tonight later on...

[edibles]

:)

[Riz]

hi ed..

have you just started to germinate these ?

[edibles]

no they just took their sweet time 1'n' a 1/2 months

[Psypomp]

Beautiful photo, edibles! They really do take their sweet time, don't they?

[edibles]

Beautiful photo, edibles! They really do take their sweet time, don't they?

thanks
you wanna try banana seeds:p:p

[Carcharos]

My little pomegranates around day 40 or so. It's only about 5 inches (12.7 cm) tall now.

[Riz]

^goodness 40 days

seriously look into getting yourself an indoor grow light for xmas.. they are really cheap these days and cheap to run and can double as regular house lighting when not in use for plants, there is so much info available on the net, try for the CFL ( COMPACT FLORESCENT LIGHT)

great for germination and growing small seedlings for planting outdoors later on...

i cannot recommend it highly enough serious...

everyone should get some indoor lights !!!! :big_boss:

[Riz]

i use the old 4 foot shop lights that ive had for a while really cheap, i have a few but the new CFL lights are much smaller and equally as powerful, you can get them in various watts..

here is a thread from the indoor grow, you can see how i have been using them :)

http://www.muslimgrower.com/discussionforum/showthread.php?t=36

[digi-girl]

Wow, it sure has been a while since I last posted. Adjusting from Community College to University is a lot more difficult then I thought.
My pommies are 7 months old now and doing okay; though they've lost a lot of leaves (as you can see in the pictures) and their growth has slowed down a good bit because of winter.
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The tallest one is about 19 in(48 cm) and the smallest is a bit bigger then 6 in(15 cm). I've had to help the tallest ones stand up by supporting them with bamboo skewers. I'm not quite sure why there's such a height difference developing between them. I water and fertilize them equally, and I rotate them so they get equal exposure to light. It's a bit of a mystery to me.

[Riz]

hi di-girl..

i think some are bigger than others because they are competing for "root space" inside the trough, If you separate them and plant them in single containers they will grow bigger and branch out too, Its natural for them to shed leaves but you get new growth soon enough on them....

[Psypomp]

Wow Digi-girl, I'm surprised that the leaves are still green and intact, considering you're in Michigan! They're very lush.

Of course, that was 3 weeks ago, but if you're fertilizing (& take Riz's advice), they should get much bigger.

[Riz]

hi psypomp..

long time no see, i hope you are well,

here is a bad pic of mine, growing nicely indoors and looking woody and healthy

[Psypomp]

Well, I left my pommies at school during my month-long winter break. They're completely bare (except for a few clinging leaves), but still alive! Hopefully they'll be bursting with green when spring rolls around.

[Riz]

the pommie plants are sharing the tube light with the mango plants and are looking perky, i water these once a week too.....

[Psypomp]

Wow, Riz, yours are looking so healthy! I'm afraid mine might be dead. We'll have to wait and see until it gets warmer.

[Carcharos]

Mine is about 4-5 months old now. Ended up having to snip the top off this one because it was growing way too fast.

I have three more, but this is the best looking.

[Riz]

looks nice....

sometimes they get lanky and stretchy so what i do is cut of the ends kinda perks them up a little... :cheerleader::cheerleader:

[Riz]

latest pics, both pommies are under the lights next to the mango plants. :juggle: just give them regular weekly watering and nothing else !!!!

[Mim3101]

Salaams... I'm new and have a few questions about growing pomegranates:
1. Since I live in South Africa (its always hot and sunny) is the weather suitable for growing pomegranates? if so...
2. What soil should be used?
3. what type of maintainance is there?
4. How long (approx.) would it take to fruit?
and any other essential tips would be appreciated
جزاك الله

[Riz]

salaam mim..

1. The pomegranate tree is native from Iran to the Himalayas in northern India and has been cultivated since ancient times throughout the Mediterranean region of Asia, Africa and Europe

2. The pomegranate thrives on calcareous, alkaline soil and on deep, acidic loam and a wide range of soils in between these extremes. So not to worry about the soil.. It would be better if you bought a hardwood cutting of the pommie plant

3. not much, maybe prune it back once a year

4. from a small plant , maybe 3 to 4 years.

if you want to grow it for the fruit , get a graft or cutting from the garden centre..

do you have a garden for it because they can eventually grow to around 6 to 10 metres :)

[Mim3101]

JazakALLAH for your help, but, is it not possible to recieve fruit from a plant grown from seed, if so how long will it take to fruit?

[~Obsidian~]

WaAlaykum AsSalaam wa Rahmatullahi wa Barakatuhu Mim,

It is possible to receive fruit from a plant grown from a seed but growing it straight from seed is a risk as it probably will not grow into a tree like the one which it came from, and the fruit may not be edible. It may take you 3-4 years to discover this after growing it from seed so to minimise the risk it is better to grow it from the cutting of a well established fruiting tree. This is easily done, if you take a cutting from an existing plant you can put it in some hormone rooting powder and then place it in some soil, and wait for it to take root. This plant will definitely give good fruit.

[Psypomp]

Are they dead? My pommies have been like this since November.. I fear they might have died, but I still water them once a week.

[rubmanhayat]

Are they dead? My pommies have been like this since November.. I fear they might have died, but I still water them once a week.
The one on the extreme right is still green. Rite? I think that might come back. I'd wait till next month when the weather will get warmer. The other ones I couldn't make out. If they are green then they will come back Inshallah. Good Luck

[Mim3101]

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=428c6af3fc&view=att&th=127aa37c550ca189&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_g7dch25q0&zw
Salaam
I gave it a try and this is what I found... Do these look like pomegranates to anyone???

[rubmanhayat]

We don't see ur picture but I am sure if you google them, you'll find tons of images for Pommy seedlings.

[Carcharos]

The time came to give the pomegranate a permanent home out in the yard:

[Psypomp]

The one on the extreme right is still green. Rite? I think that might come back. I'd wait till next month when the weather will get warmer. The other ones I couldn't make out. If they are green then they will come back Inshallah. Good LuckUnfortunately, the green plant you're referring to is bamboo. The two in the middle are my pomegranates. I'm going to keep taking care of them for another month.
Thanks for the advice!

[Riz]

hey psypomp :)

Its hard to tell from that pic, Ya keep them for another month and see , you might get lucky and see some green sprouts popping from the stem....

[~Obsidian~]

https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=428c6af3fc&view=att&th=127aa37c550ca189&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=f_g7dch25q0&zw
Salaam
I gave it a try and this is what I found... Do these look like pomegranates to anyone???

WaAlaykum AsSalaam Mim,

You tried linking to a picture in your e-mail account, that definitely won't work (because it's password protected!). Try saving the picture and uploading it directly, or sourcing it on a website like www.photobucket.com and try again.

[Mim3101]

JazakALLAH @ Obsidian

How about now?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/290320104537.jpg?t=1270226721

[Riz]

^ hey

they look like pommie seedlings. so were did you get the seeds from if i may ask !?

[~Obsidian~]

JazakALLAH @ Obsidian

How about now?
http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/290320104537.jpg?t=1270226721

BarakAllahu feek, those definitely look like pomegranate seedlings, well done! If you look closely in the middle of the one at the front, you can see that it is just developing it's first set of true leaves.:GreenThumbs:

[Mim3101]

^ hey

they look like pommie seedlings. so were did you get the seeds from if i may ask !?

Got them of my aunts tree... just followed your instructions... Hope they grow to epic proportions InshALLAH.:)

[Mim3101]

BarakAllahu feek, those definitely look like pomegranate seedlings, well done! If you look closely in the middle of the one at the front, you can see that it is just developing it's first set of true leaves.:GreenThumbs:

JazakALLAH :)

[edibles]

pom update
pinched tips, branching visible.
going well

school keeping me busy,I'll try to upload a chilli update asap, theyre going a bit slow(sigh)

other than that dud year mostly not much going on

study hard:D

[Riz]

Got them of my aunts tree... just followed your instructions... Hope they grow to epic proportions InshALLAH.:)


if your aunt has a pommie tree.. problem solved.. It would be alot better if you asked her for a few cuttings from that tree and rooted them.. the cutting will be the same as the mother tree and the fruit is likely to be good...

yeah brother ask her for some cuttings too and start them off, you will be better off :GreenThumbs:

[Mim3101]

if your aunt has a pommie tree.. problem solved.. It would be alot better if you asked her for a few cuttings from that tree and rooted them.. the cutting will be the same as the mother tree and the fruit is likely to be good...

yeah brother ask her for some cuttings too and start them off, you will be better off :GreenThumbs:

:ty: Will do as soon as possible (she lives quite a distance from me)
I bought a cape fig tree today from the nursey, will try and post a pic or two... Does anyone know anything about fig trees???

[Mim3101]

And @ Edibles... Thats some great photography :GreenThumbs:

[rubmanhayat]

... Does anyone know anything about fig trees???

You can check this out. Hope it'd help :)

http://www.muslimgrower.com/discussionforum/showthread.php?t=127

[Mim3101]

You can check this out. Hope it'd help :)

http://www.muslimgrower.com/discussionforum/showthread.php?t=127

Jazaks ... It did :GreenThumbs:

[edibles]

@Mim, theres no scale, try putting it next to an everyday object
Pom update:

[edibles]

if any of you guys have one of these with about 5/6 sets of leaves i recommend pinching out the top they reward you like crazy

wire is for shaping(cascade/semi)

[slightlyeskew]

Hey guys, long time (super long time) no post.

Updates on my pommies:

Initial seed died :(

After trying to incubate my initial pommie seed over the winter inside in a poorly constructed device, initial pommie finally passed away.

However subsequent seeds (from a different pom) are growing nicely. (6 inches high).

I'm potted 4 of them together a few weeks ago in a rather large pot (foot in diameter, approx 1.5 feet high, sorry no metric units :p ), but I'm starting to regret having not given them each their own pot. One died on transplant but the other three seemed to be thriving for a while.

However, I noticed today some substantial yellowing on all of the leaves of one that had been doing fine. Help! They've all been receiving substantial rain (we're entering the rainy season here in Florida) and I don't suspect its from any kind of overwatering as the other two are doing fine in the same pot. Any suggestions?

Also, does anyone have any advice on how to direct the plants vertical growth? Unfortunately they are all growing kind of cock-eyed (one is literally growing laterally, with the leaf growth rotated 90 degrees to face the sun if you can visualize that). I'd like to start correcting this while they are still young.

I'll post pictures soon!

[slightlyeskew]

Sorry for the crappy resolutions!

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Picture of the yellowing pommie.

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Another picture of the yellowing pommie and the horizontal growth.

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Overhead of the 3 pommies. You can see the screwy growth on the bottom most plant (almost a helix shape at this point) and the side growth on the yellowing one.

[slightlyeskew]

Upon reflection on the problem, I've decided to move the pommies out of direct sunlight for a bit. Although the two are thriving well, I think the other one may be a little distressed from the intensity of the sunlight. Any thoughts?

[slightlyeskew]

A turn for the worse it seems! The leaves on the yellowing pommie have appeared to start to turn upwards and bend over on themselves. I fear that this is an even worse indicator then the yellowing. I received a random suggestion which may or may not have any basis in fact. The person in question suggested that the plant was iron deficient. Have any of you ever heard of anything like this? As always, thanks for your help!

[slightlyeskew]

Found this link after browsing momentarily, maybe of some help to others!

http://www.primalseeds.org/nutrients.htm

[edibles]

i was going to suggest nitrogen deficiency,
just give a light dose of general purpose fertiliser.

[Mim3101]

http://http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/200520104610-1.jpg?t=1274378456
Salaam. I planted a few pommie seeds in a container and managed a few shoots... But there seems to be something else growing aswell, can anyone identify what this is?
http://http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/200520104610-1.jpg?t=1274378456

[Mim3101]

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/200520104608-1.jpg?t=1274378684

[Mim3101]

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/200520104610-1.jpg?t=1274378864

[Riz]

looks like a sunflower seedling or a cuke seedling or that genus...

[Riz]

update on the pommie plants outside.. they shed lots of leaves earlier on in the season and now are bouncing back, just with regular watering and nowt else :)

[slightlyeskew]

Hey guys,

So my two remaining pommies are now dropping leaves from the lower part of the plant, after the leaves turn bright yellow with tiny green spots all over. Suggestions on what nutrients they are deficient in?

Thanks for your help!

[Riz]

they shed leaves anyway.. are u keeping them outdoors ?

here are two of mine

[Mim3101]

Salaam

My Pomegranate is about half a metre tall and is growing rapidly from the bottom and sides... I was wondering that if I leave it to grow in a pot will it grow to optimum size and bear fruit?

[Riz]

^ hmmmm

obviously it wont grow its optimum growth in a pot, it may bear fruit.. cmon show us a pic :)

[Riz]

pics of my pommie plant still outdoors

[Mim3101]

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/24092010187.jpg?t=1285749062

[Mim3101]

MashAllah Riz... yours looks great:cool:

[noora]

MashAllah Riz... yours looks great
thank you

[Riz]

http://i787.photobucket.com/albums/yy152/Moses3101/24092010187.jpg?t=1285749062


heyyy

looking really good,, keep it up :)

[Riz]

my 2 pommie plants are indoors untill mid may next year. The leaves are yellowing and falling off when i give it a little shake, I will pot it in the ground next season in the back of the garden :)

[pwr_wrx]

my 2 pommie plants are indoors untill mid may next year. The leaves are yellowing and falling off when i give it a little shake, I will pot it in the ground next season in the back of the garden :)

How old are you plants? mine is around 7-8 months and is barely half of that

[Riz]

mine are two seasons old.. i bring them indoors mid September and leave them near reflected light were they grow spindly and lanky, i usually trim them back and in mid-may early june i leave them out doors again.

[pwr_wrx]

how long before they fruit

[pwr_wrx]

I ate a pomegranate and planted a lot of seeds and a few germinated yay!

[~Obsidian~]

Yay! How big are they now, two months on?

[pwr_wrx]

About 2 inches tall i guess...i have two of em..maybe a third..cant tell what it is though cuz the leaves are yellow but its still alive..hopefully it grows more leaves...and also i have a big pommie in a pot outside

[Foreveryoung]

AOA

You all got really nice pomis mashallah. The one my grandmother got gives lot of f ruit but most of it is destroyed by squirrels before they are big enough to be enjoyed by us.

This year's fruit. Just captured today.


http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/AyeshaUK2009/Gardening/DSCN6550.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/AyeshaUK2009/Gardening/DSCN6552.jpg

http://i577.photobucket.com/albums/ss217/AyeshaUK2009/Gardening/DSCN6553.jpg

[pwr_wrx]

wow that looks amazing!!! maybe you can put some sort of barrier so the squirrels cant get to it? I found two more pommies growing in my large mango pot :0 i guess i mixed some seeds in there by accident and they grew..Ill transplant them soon :)

[bilbo]

pomegranate seedlings

hello I think its great that you have suceeded it growing pomegranate seedlings from cuttings.

[Riz]

my pommie plant which is 3 seasons old.. i take it out every day and bring back in the evenings as there is a chance of night time frost, i will leave outdoors permanently in mid may, i have two plants both 3 years old and i will sink one in the ground after mid may and leave there permanently.

[pwr_wrx]

How long before your pommie fruits? And will it survive outside if you plant it in the ground?

[bilbo]

Can't wait to have a go now riz thanks for posting

do I put them in water then plastic bag at 20 as others have done when I recieve them

thanks

[Riz]

How long before your pommie fruits? And will it survive outside if you plant it in the ground?

well pommies do grow outdoors in UK so i dont see why not !!!

they have been in containers for a while now so planting them outdoors will help them branch out and get really big inshallah. so yes i do expect to see fruit maybe not this season but the next :)

[Riz]

Can't wait to have a go now riz thanks for posting

do I put them in water then plastic bag at 20 as others have done when I recieve them

thanks

just sow them in a seed tray or small seedling pots.. keep them at room temps maybe near window sill and take it from there :)

[pwr_wrx]

pommie update


How do i encourage this to grow up and branch like a tree rather than looking like a bush?

[Riz]

they naturally grow like a bush anyway....

noticed this tinge of red in between the leaves, first time in 3 seasons i have this colour..

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa300/sajid_012/DSC05648.jpg

[Foreveryoung]

What a wealth of information for beginners in this thread (and the website over all mashallah ) Thank you for sharing Riz.
Cant wait to see it full of fruit inshallah.

[Riz]

^ thanks ash..

mine is doing really well and has lots of leaves that are growing really healthy..

[Carcharos]

My pomegranate has its first flower. I started growing it around October of 2009, planted it the summer of 2010. So it's a few months from 2 years old.

[Foreveryoung]

^ oh that’s so cool I hope it turns into a tree soon …….Congrats Carcharos :) Pomegranate and Okra produce lovely flowers =) and are a great draw for birds of all kinds.

I'm totally obsessed with pomegranates.. My dadi jee grows them but mostly enjoyed by the birds in her garden and I could never really taste them. Let me know if any of you guys are having success with growing pomegranates and any tips regarding how to make save its fruits from squirrels and birds :(

[Riz]

My pomegranate has its first flower. I started growing it around October of 2009, planted it the summer of 2010. So it's a few months from 2 years old.

did you leave it outdoors through winter too ??

[Carcharos]

Yeah. It survived just fine with no special care whatsoever. It gets down to about 10F (around -12C) here at worst.

[digi-girl]

My pomegranate has its first flower. I started growing it around October of 2009, planted it the summer of 2010. So it's a few months from 2 years old.


Wow, that's so nice that they've started flower. Mine are just over two years old and I'm still waiting for that day.

[Riz]

here is a pic of mine,, seriously have no more room to sink it in the ground so i guess one more season in the pot and next year ill put it in the ground, i am so glad carcharos showed me her pic as now i feel good about mine :)


http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa300/sajid_012/Photo0801.jpg

[pwr_wrx]

will the survive the frost?

[pwr_wrx]

Heres a update on my pommie..plus i have 3 other ones that are starting to get bigger

[Riz]

i dont know if it will survive the frost i usually bring it indoors end of September but after seeing carhcaros one in the ground through winter i will be leaving mine outdoors this year...

yours is looking good, when i kept mine indoors i pruned it twice coz they stretch a lot coz of lack of light so pruning them kinda perks them up too, they will shed all there leaves too and then bounce back.

[pwr_wrx]

trim the top of the ones that are very long?

[Riz]

^ yep

[zishaan]

Here's a few pics of one of my poms. It's about 4.5 feet tall. I'm still waiting for it to branch out.

[rubmanhayat]

Don't you have to snip of the tip to force it to branch out?

[zishaan]

:o I can see that's what you and Riz were talking about just before I asked that question.

I'll check the post properly for answer next time :D

[rubmanhayat]

Tat's ok. I think it's ones preference. Some leave it as is and let nature play it's role and some snips. I don't know if Riz snipped his to shoot out. I happened to do that to my pineapple 'coz the leaves were all retarded and now I have two crowns :)

[Riz]

latest pic of the pommie bush, i will be leaving this outdoors for good.



http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa300/sajid_012/Photo1229.jpg

[jac12358]

Hello, I am new here. For the past couple years I've been germinating a lot of tropical fruit seeds that I either bought at the store or "kept" after eating during exotic vacations. So far I have many guavas, lychees, longans, genips, tamarinds, star fruits, passion fruits, mangos, avocados, a few palms, including fishtails, papayas, mahoes, sweetlimes, one jackfruit, one indian locust tree, one coffee plant, one macadamia and one persimmon. Sadly I could not find a breadfruit with a seed yet. The rambutans and mangosteen I bought were IRRADIATED so those seeds simply rotted when I tried to grow them. I only had one sapote seed which did not do anything.

Recently I've discovered wild persimmons here in New Jersey, although since it has allegedly been a lousy year for them, I've only found two trees/bushes bearing any fruit. Small, but WAY more tasty than the huge store varieties. And of course if I get THEM to grow they can stay outside. The other magical fruit is the Paw Paw. I found a few trees in NJ a bit late in the fruiting season but found MANY in Maryland. We ate our first and only 5 pawpaws and they were frangrant and sweet and tasty! We kept the seeds and I currently am "stratifying" them, as the literature says, in moist sphagnum in a baggie in the fridge before planting in the spring. I also just cracked open my second cherimoya, which this time has firm healthy seeds.

You see how this is going.....

But wait, this is a pomegranate thread!!! Well, as you can see, I do not have them in my list yet, and last night I cleaned off and dried several seeds to try this - before I read this thread. I noticed right away that the seedlings looked similar to my guava plants, with thinner leaves, but the same stem, branching structure, etc. So I looked online and found that both guavas and pomegranates are in the Myrtle family, so I guess that explains it. I hope they are as easy!

[Riz]

hi jac,

you have grown so many diff kinds of fruit :) its straightforward germinating the pommi seeds , just keep them at room temps with light and they will germinate really well..

[GardeningBeginner]

Assalaamu Alaykum,

Hello. I have followed this thread and I will keep updating how my poms go.
Here is one I started from seed about 3 weeks ago. As we live in KSA hope it grows well. Exuse me. How do I post pictures in this forum(newbie). Thank you very much for your help

[Riz]

salaam,

you can use photobucket to upload your pics. you just have to register first and it doesn't take long, just a few mins...

http://photobucket.com/

[GardeningBeginner]

Salaam,

After making a account in photo bucket what shall I do. The pictures is in a paint file. Thx riz

[GardeningBeginner]

Salaam,

Here is my pomegranate at the meantime

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/GardeningBeginner/pom.png

http://i1117.photobucket.com/albums/k599/GardeningBeginner/POMPOM.png

[rubmanhayat]

Hi Jac,

I have 2 guava plants growing here in NY but they are still very small. They started growing together. one of them is around 5-6 inches but the other one is growing faster around 1 foot. Are you growing guava indoors or leave 'em outside? I have some mango seeds but the mangoes were irradiated. What you guys think...will they germinate? Should I even try :/

[Riz]

^ how did they get irradiated?/ through natural causes??

[rubmanhayat]

This year when mangoes were imported from Pakistan, USDA first took them to some facility and irradiated them. Then they were shipped out to retail market. That's how they will be doing every year I think.

[Riz]

^ wow really ??

is that normal practice with all fruit??

[d14m0d]

I live in BC, Canada and I have a 5 year old pomegranate tree which seems to be doing ok. When I grew it, I didn't have any info on it at the time and no experience in gardening as such so it was growing more like a bush.... Last year I've pruned it way back to three main branches and am almost starting over.
I take the plant outside during the warm spring days and leave it completely outside after the nights are warm enough. It stays outside until fall when I finally bring it inside for the winter as the leaves fall off and I end up with just "sticks". The new growth starts to appear around beginning of January and it grows like a weed, but in 5 years I only had it flower twice. I also notice that many times the leaves will wilt when it's taken outside in placed in the full sun and it pushes out new growth but I'm guessing it's hard on the tree.
Since, this was originally just an experiment and I'm starting to learn a little more about gardening now, can anyone give me suggestions as to how I should make the tree not loose leaves when taken outside? I don't use any UV lights when it's inside the house but I do have large windows and a skylight when the tree sits throughout the winter months.

[Riz]

hi d14mod, welcome to the forum,

pommis are deciduous so they do shed there leaves every season , mine does the same, mine is outdoors now, over wintered it for 3 years and now its outdoors permnatley, hope its survives :)

[Riz]

do you harden it off before you leave it outdoors permanently in the summer ?