Is this worms or fungus?

[Nife180]

I've been seeing this on several leaves since a few days ago, Whenever I saw It I trimed the leaves. But now it's on the true leaves and I can't take It anymore. It's on my radish (Which I removed because of this), Tomatoes, Watermelon, Zucchini. Anyone know what this is?

[Riz]

looks like caterpillar tracks... they eat the green lining of the leaf, kinda scrape it of with there teeth..

[Nife180]

I don't think It is, I never ever saw one in my yard. I rarley ever do. I saw little yellow things in the leaves.

[~Obsidian~]

I thought they didn't exist in my garden eaither until last summer! Look at your plants, are any leaves stuck together (not just on the beans/zucchini - on anything)? I picked apart some leaves last year and got a nasty surprise :eek: Did the same a few weeks ago ...oops...

[Riz]

thats what caterpillars do they fold the leaf up and hide in it for protection and also laying eggs...

It will be interesting too find out what exactly is causing that if its not the caterpillar

much kudos to the person who figures it out :)

[dhakiyya]

my tomato plants in the UK a couple of years ago got leaf miners :( the pic right at the bottom looks a bit like leaf miners but the other ones don;t. they eat the inside of a leaf so the leaf gets pale patches on it which grow until the leaf dies and eventually the plant dies :(

but they spread in patches, rather than tracks. but maybe there are different kinds of leaf miners? you could maybe look them up on the internet. if it is them I'd like to know how to get rid of them, because I couldn't get rid of them from my tomato plants and they died :(

[Nife180]

my tomato plants in the UK a couple of years ago got leaf miners :( the pic right at the bottom looks a bit like leaf miners but the other ones don;t. they eat the inside of a leaf so the leaf gets pale patches on it which grow until the leaf dies and eventually the plant dies :(

but they spread in patches, rather than tracks. but maybe there are different kinds of leaf miners? you could maybe look them up on the internet. if it is them I'd like to know how to get rid of them, because I couldn't get rid of them from my tomato plants and they died :(

You are right on, They are leaf miners. The larvae of flies. I caught some flies on my leaves today. God It's so frustrating, Do I have to cut the leaves of my plants everything I find them, it seems so.

The Zucchini leaf has folded up because I kinda fried it, using pesticide contacting oil. It's crazy with these flies. I'm gonna search for ways to control this. thank you everyone.

[Riz]

dhakiyya :GreenThumbs:

I read somewhere about a home made concoction you can make to get rid of them.. ill see if i can find it

some more reading about the leafminer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leaf_miner

[Riz]

Controlling the Population of Leaf Miners

In managing leaf miners, and other pestiferous insects for that matter, the key aspect is to detect the infestation before it becomes too hot too handle. There are two basic methods of detecting leaf miner infestation: plant inspection and yellow sticky traps. By observing the plants carefully and regularly, leaf miner infestation can be averted before it takes serious form. On the other hand, using sticky traps placed slightly above crop height may invite leaf miners and allow you to detect the infestation.
BioNeem
The best recommended control for leaf miners is BioNeem. BioNeem is a multipurpose concentrated insecticide and repellent that is used for flowers, fruits, vegetables, and ornaments in and around the house. BioNeem can kill or repel aphids, caterpillars, beetles, thrips, whiteflies, and leaf miners, among others. The effectiveness of it can be based on several modes of action:
The insecticide can disrupt the hormonal balance of insects, which results to death even before they move on to the next life cycle.
It provides the insects a sense of suppression regarding their desire to eat. The chemical product also repels leaf miners from the fogged area.
These modes of action improve the quality of pest control, while also sparing the precious lives of beneficial insects, such as ladybugs and beneficial nematodes.
Biological Control

Not all predatory insects feed on all varieties of leaf miners. Leaf miners are not a species, but a biological category. Ladybugs are known to attack the widest array of leaf miners.
Methods of Suppression
You can halt, or at least control, leaf miner infestations naturally.
Control weeds to prevent breeding grounds from forming.
Follow crop rotation guidelines.
Avoid placing indoor plants--that are susceptible to leaf miners--close to doors, windows, or vents. Leaf miners are rude creatures that take what they are not offered.
Discard and destroy infected plants to stop the infestation in its tracks.
Tips and Warnings



Do not prune your trees more than once a year. A hardened leaf is more difficult for pesky leaf miners to penetrate.
Do not remove damaged leaves immediately, especially for certain plants like the citrus tree. Affected areas of the tree cannot provide food, but the undamaged parts can still contribute to its survival.
Remember: age is a factor. If your tree is more than four years old, leaf miners would not be able to affect its health or the fruit that it produces.
By planting crops, as trap devices, near the plants to be protected, leaf miner infection can be diminished or averted.

Conclusion

Insects that are categorized as leaf miners can cause havoc to your masterpiece of a garden. Always be on the lookout for insatiable leaf eaters. The tips stated above can help you control leaf miners and prevent them from ruining your garden again. Remember: prevention is better than cure.


http://www.howtogetridofstuff.com/pest-control/how-to-get-rid-of-leaf-miners/

[dhakiyya]

wow!! I didn't know all that about leaf miners!! The ones I got made patches on the leaves rather than tracks. It's interesting that you can tell the variety by the pattern they make on the leaf.

Thanks for all the info, I'll know what to do about them next time inshaAllah!

[Riz]

Really need to compile a database for muslimgrower "sick plants section" "home made fertilizer" etc...

This way we can quickly check what's up with our plants...

I am working on something though,,, may take a while, so much info out there :)

[dhakiyya]

yes that is a very good idea :)

[dhakiyya]

yesterday my little girl (age 2.75) was looking at someone's plants, and part of one leaf had been either damaged or eaten by something... she looked at it and said "this leaf is broken"

[~Obsidian~]

Really need to compile a database for muslimgrower "sick plants section" "home made fertilizer" etc...

This way we can quickly check what's up with our plants...

I am working on something though,,, may take a while, so much info out there :)
How is this project going?
yesterday my little girl (age 2.75) was looking at someone's plants, and part of one leaf had been either damaged or eaten by something... she looked at it and said "this leaf is broken"

Aww bless masha Allah!

[Riz]

How is this project going?



salaam obi..

I have a few pages done, but i have been working till late for the past few weeks so not made much progress..

i was wondering if its possible to locate a free open source database on plants/plant diseases and somehow embed it into MG forums.. ?

anyone a web developer !?