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~Obsidian~
30th September 2008, 09:07 PM
Here I go again! :D Me mam brought a papaya home and the thought of all those juicy seeds glistening up at me was just too much temptation!! I've done some research (of which I'll post the links later) and I've found out that papaya's seem to be awesome trees to grow - heres a summary!

The Physical Structure

The only problem is that the trees have gender problems. That's right, they can each be either male, female, or both! And the only way to tell is when they fruit, the fruits of the male trees hang away from the trunk on long stalks. The fruits of the female tree are alot closer to the trunk (shorter/almost non-existant stalks). What I've gathered so far is that the seeds of a single papaya can contain possibilities for all of these, so I will probably plant quite a few! They have some nifty seven-lobed leaves (quite like a fig tree). The life of a papaya tree can be quite short-lived - they fruit best when they are young and they grow vigorously!! When they are older they tend to produce fruits that are poorer in quality and can be smaller in size, and because the trunk of the tree is hollow it can be prone to snapping in high winds (they can grow up to 10 metres tall!).

Fruiting Habits

They fruit approx 8 months after planting, and they grow quite quickly.They also fruit all year round if the temps are constantly warm!! When they are older they tend to produce fruits that are poorer in quality and can be smaller in size.

Possible Problems

Apart from the gender issues, they are prone to root-rot and so the best kind of soil for them to grow in is loamy - which I shall be creating with a mix of 50/50 or 40/60 sand/compost. It also helps to put a layer of gravel in the bottom of the pot (if grown in a pot) around an inch thick to improve drainage, although it is recommended to plant them directly where they are to grow as they do not like their roots being disturbed!! IF you do plant many trees and end up with males and females (and no mixes) then you can have a ratio of 15 females to 1 male tree.

The Seeds

A good seed is blackish in colour, it's best to avoid any small whitish ones (you can take your chances with the grey, I won't because the black are plentiful!) grey seeds are a sign of unripe fruit, so allow them to ripen fully first!!

Propagation

To plant them, get them out of their jelly sacks and allow them to dry out, before planting them half an inch deep in the soil.

Conflicting Advice

One problem I'm having is that the websites I have been on disagree on the issue of fertilization. Site 1 says they feed heavily whilst another site says not to use fertilisers such as chicken manure on trees less that 2 years old as they may burn from it...although site 1 says this is ok. :confused: I'll proceed with caution!

Here are some good links for more information:
http://www.tropicalpermaculture.com/growing-papaya.html <--best link
http://www.nda.agric.za/docs/papaya/papaya.htm <---VERY good
http://weedseedshop.com/grow_help.php?weed=Papaya
http://www2.dpi.qld.gov.au/horticulture/5326.html


Here are some pictures:
The pictures from somebody else's grow (http://http://www.all-creatures.org/pics/papaya.html)
Picture 1 -Male tree
Picture 2 - Female tree

Kirsten
30th September 2008, 09:26 PM
Ooh I can't wait to see how they turn out! The greenhouse here has some baby papaya plants and they are ADORABLE. Unfortunately, I don't have anywhere nearby to get ahold of a papaya, and I don't want to be caught stealing a plant from the greenhouse :(

Riz
8th October 2008, 06:02 PM
some good info and great pics...

never tasted a papaya before..

what does it taste like !?

~Obsidian~
10th October 2008, 03:36 PM
Err..its sweet is all I can say (not strongly sweet but still!) I can't describe the flavour unfortunately!!
I extracted the seeds and left them on a plate and came back to find that someone had chucked them all away!! So yeah I need to buy another papaya! Good thing is that exotic fruits are abundant here!!

farah
22nd December 2008, 11:58 PM
are papayas orange on the inside?

Kirsten
23rd December 2008, 01:40 AM
Yes, here's what they look like :)
http://www.tropicalfruitnursery.com/images/papaya-lg.jpg

I don't know - all those little black seeds on the inside are just so unsightly - they remind me of insects or something *shivers* I hate bugs!

~Obsidian~
24th December 2008, 01:51 AM
Yup orange/pinky/reddy

Kirsten how can you garden and hate bugs?! I love those little black things in their own individual jelly bubbles, I think they're cute, they're like beads

Kirsten
24th December 2008, 02:05 AM
I dunno - I just feel like things with too many legs scare me. Things with not enough legs (snakes, worms, eels) are completely fine. (I love earthworms - when it rains and they get washed out and drown or stepped on, I'll actually pick them up and put them back under a bush or something.)

Ladybugs and butterflies are great, anything with 8 or more legs is NOT, and Japanese beetles are an absolute NOT.

Papaya trees are so cute though, I feel like I may have to brave the icky seeds and see if I can grow one...

~Obsidian~
24th December 2008, 02:59 AM
Papaya seeds have NO legs :D haha! Well they feel very funny and prickly out of the sack though, very nice

Tania
24th December 2008, 10:12 PM
The papaya tree can resist during winter ? If its so tall (10 m ) you will can't bring inside to protect him.

Tania
29th December 2008, 01:02 PM
I will update my last post: i just saw exotic plants left outside in big pots all (tree with leafs )wrapped out in some white plastic bags (they packed up including the pots). It seems this will help them to survive during the winter and the leafs will not be damaged. Last night we had -10degree (celsius).

Nife180
17th May 2009, 03:29 PM
My Papaya seeds have germinated, I see another one popping out of the soil. They are so tiny like strawberry seedlings.

Nife180
17th May 2009, 03:44 PM
I did something stupid a while ago, My Sister planted some papaya in the ground, infact lots. But I saw 3 sprouts similar to the ones on the top. So I asked her and she said she put lots of them. But I turned the soil a while ago because of ants..... hopefully more will germinate and the gender issue won't be a problem.

rubmanhayat
26th November 2010, 12:59 AM
I don't think this makes any sense but according to the pictures in 1st post if Male & Female plant has fruit, which ones do we eat?

Riz
26th November 2010, 08:05 PM
its the female that produces the fruit.. but some papaya trees are bi-sexeual

This change of sex may occur temporarily during high temperatures in midsummer. Male or bisexual plants may change completely to female plants after being beheaded.

rubmanhayat
26th November 2010, 11:39 PM
So this means that papaya hanging a little further away from the trunk would be a bisexual papaya plant or may be a male that probably changed to a female papaya plant. I am thinking of growing papaya this coming spring. I don't know may be I'll try on the roof. How big pot would I need?

~Obsidian~
7th December 2010, 12:25 AM
I've seen some pictures of say...a 30cm pot? But I'm not sure whether the trees in these pots will fruit, I *think* the ones in the original post were in a pot that size and they did fruit (only a single fruit though).

I had a dream that I had papaya vines strung across my garden and the produce I got (within a few minutes) was absolutely huge! And my garden was dappled with golden sunlight at 10pm. Cue the tiny horses with wings :o

:kez_11:

pwr_wrx
17th February 2011, 05:36 AM
I potted my papaya seeds several weeks ago. Maybe a month or more and I still haven't seen a single sprout. Any ideas? It's inside where temp is 70s F. And I water it every 2-3 days

~Obsidian~
4th March 2011, 07:16 PM
No idea....they haven't gone mouldy have they?

pwr_wrx
4th March 2011, 11:28 PM
Lots of them just sprouted over the last couple days :) how big should they get before i transplant them? and can i keep them in pots?

pwr_wrx
4th March 2011, 11:43 PM
Heres a pic

pwr_wrx
18th March 2011, 04:57 PM
Moved them into pots :)

pwr_wrx
31st March 2011, 10:19 PM
More pics

Riz
1st April 2011, 10:11 PM
you have so many, what you gonna do with them all... !!!!? :cigar2:

pwr_wrx
2nd April 2011, 08:17 PM
Grow em ;) u need male and female ones so I don't know which one is which. Gonna have to grow em all and see what happens. I thought papayas grow fast. They don't seem to be growing very fast

rubmanhayat
3rd May 2011, 03:36 AM
Read somewhere...Ones growing faster will be male and smaller/slow grower are female. Not sure if that's true. Borrowed two seeds from a friend. He brought them from Hawaii. One has sprouted, let's see how far it goes.

pwr_wrx
4th May 2011, 05:55 AM
I have a couple that are growing really fast and many that are not...and whats weird is that i have several growing in the same pots (i only planted one seed per pot)...and some papayas growing in my passion fruit pots..they are everywhere..i have soo many..:D

rubmanhayat
6th May 2011, 02:35 AM
Dallas isn't far from New York. You can send me a male if this turns out to be a female hehehe :)
The tiny one on the right is guava from hawaii.

pwr_wrx
1st June 2011, 07:32 PM
papaya update

I have sooo many papaya seeds and plants now!!...i have a whole garden of papayas and lots of them in pots..some of em are getting really big :)

rubmanhayat
1st June 2011, 10:17 PM
Mashallah this is great. Mine died yesterday. It didn't get enough sun 'coz of this rainy weather :( We finally got sun for 2 days and again storm is hitting.

pwr_wrx
2nd June 2011, 04:08 PM
Well whenever you come down to dallas you can get some papayas from me...i have lots

rubmanhayat
2nd June 2011, 10:05 PM
Thanks :)

pwr_wrx
13th September 2011, 08:47 PM
Heres a papaya update...i have couple bigger ones in the yard..but i took a pic of the one in a pot since that one is also pretty big..no fruit yet..and winter is only a few months away

pwr_wrx
10th October 2011, 10:49 PM
Heres the pics from the ones in the yard...i think one is starting to grow flowers

pwr_wrx
10th October 2011, 10:50 PM
The picture in the middle is 6ft tall :)

~Obsidian~
11th October 2011, 08:48 PM
Masha'Allah!!!!